ADVICE FROM "DEAR ANNE"

                             by

                          Goodgulf


Part 1

Dear Anne:

I'm enrolled in a bachelors of education (BED) program.  To make a 
long story short, I need to pick up a practical credit in order to 
take some of my third year courses.  I wasn't goofing off -- I came 
down with mono -- and if I don't pick up the credit this summer, it 
will really derail my education (more than the mono did).  Schools 
aren't open in the summer, but my advisor was able to get me into 
a sleep-away camp as a counsellor in training (CIT). and that will 
count as the credit I need.  I'll be the oldest girl in the CIT 
program (the rest will be 14-16), but I am okay with that.

What I'm not okay with is I just found out that there's spanking 
at that camp.  Anne, my parents don't believe in spanking so I've 
never gotten, given, or even seen a spanking before, and now I'm 
going to a camp where everyone from the CITs to the camp director 
can give swats.  Worse, if what I'm reading is correct, one of the 
forms they sent me is to authorise the use of corporal punishment 
on me.  It says something about CITs still being young enough to 
benefit from a sore backside and gives a lot of options -- 
including getting it on the bare.  There's another box that 
leaves all of the decisions on instruments, state of my backside, 
and possible witnesses up to the person applying the corporal 
punishment.  It's a mandatory form, and there's no place on it 
to check that I don't want spankings.

Anne, what should I do?  Should I contact the camp and tell them 
that I'm way too old for spanking?  If they insist on the form, 
then what?  My advisor had to pull a lot of strings to get me this 
spot, and there's no way he can get me another one.  Maybe I could 
deliver a swat or two, but I don't want to find out what a spanking 
feels like.  Should I risk my education for my principles?  What 
should I do?

Scared BED Student

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Dear Scared BED:

You should fill out the form, mail it back, and make a real effort 
to behave while at camp.  We aren't talking about principles (if we 
were then you wouldn't be prepared to swat some tails), but about 
protecting your own buns.  Even if the camp is prepared to waive 
the form in your case, it wouldn't be fair to the other girls for 
you to get special treatment.  The camp is already making a huge 
allowance for you -- accepting you as a CIT at your age -- and it 
wouldn't be right to ask for more special treatment.

Since you know nothing about spanking, my advice is to tick the 
box that leaves everything to the expert (the one applying the 
corporal punishment) and not worry about it.

And congratulations!  It sounds as if you will be spending the 
summer living the life of a young teen.  No big decisions, no 
real worries, and if you screw up the worst that can happen is 
your buns get tingly.  Compare that with how you are living now 
-- forced to make a decision that will affect your entire 
education -- and you'll appreciate how stress-free life as a 
CIT will be.

Anne


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Dear Anne:

I'm worried that I may have done something that was unfair.  I am 
a faculty advisor in a Bachelors of Education (BED) program. and a 
student came to me to find a way to bend the rules to get a credit 
that she should already have.  Rather than getting her a summer job 
at a summer school or as a camp counsellor, I had her enrolled as a 
CIT (Counsellor-In-Training) at a girls' only summer camp, one that 
endorses and employs corporal punishment.  The camp's director is 
an old buddy, and we do this every year.  The student ends up being 
treated like any other CIT (forced to wear the camp uniform and 
spanked as needed), which can turn around a student who has spent 
the school year goofing off.  Even if she truly behaves herself, 
she can expect a bare bottom spanking from the head CIT (who is 
usually 16 years old) in front of all the other CITs because that 
is practically a tradition for the older girls I send there.

I recently learned that this student wasn't taking a relaxed 
attitude toward her studies.  Reviewing her file (which, 
admittedly, I should have done while talking with her) I can 
see that she had mononucleosis, but still was able to complete 
most of her course work.  In short, I have condemned a good 
student to spending the summer some place where she will be 
spanked as needed.  I have access to countless other job openings 
involving summer schools or being a full counsellor at camps where 
spanking isn't an issue.  All of them pay much better than the CIT 
job.

Should I get her one of the better jobs or just leave well enough 
alone?  The decision should be a no-brainer, but I'm sure she knows 
about the spanking at that camp (she was mailed an intake kit last 
week), and, if she doesn't become part of the system, then she 
might decide to "expose" it.  It's all perfectly legal, but she 
might be able to make trouble for my buddy because he waived the 
age restrictions to accept her.

Any advice you can give will be greatly appreciated.

Losing Sleep in BED

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Dear Losing Sleep:

Relax and stop worrying.  Maybe this student isn't the typical type 
you send there, but I'm sure she can benefit from being under a 
strict regime.

Anne

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                   ADVICE FROM "DEAR ANNE"

                             by

                         Imreadonly


Part 2

Dear Anne:

I wrote you recently about a college girl who recently agreed to 
assume the role of a counsellor-ln-training (CIT) at a summer camp. 
Most of the counsellors at the camp are older teenagers and use 
corporal punishment as needed, but this is the first experience 
with a counsellor in her early twenties.

Recently she was asked to accompany one of the other adults into 
town to do some shopping, and, during this trip, she purchased some 
beer.  She's over 21, so there was nothing illegal about it, and 
she didn't drink any of the beer, which she immediately placed in 
a refrigerator.  However, the Head CIT wrote her up for "possession 
of alcohol" and sentenced her to a spanking in front of the other 
counsellors.

Clearly "possession" refers to possession for the purpose of 
consumption, which was not the case here.  She appealed the 
Head CIT's decision, but a panel of her fellow counsellors 
found her guilty, when all of the male counsellors (who will 
witness her paddling) voted in a bloc against her.  Worse, 
since she lost her appeal, her sentence has been doubled.  
The boys also made it very clear in their written ruling that 
the spanking is to be given "on the bare."

Needless to say, she's undergone a lot of teasing from the boys who 
are now going to get to watch her get her bare fanny paddled.  She 
did technically violate the rules, and we agreed when she started 
that she would be treated as any other counsellor.  But she's a 
21-year-old college student, and I know it will be incredibly 
humiliating for her to be paddled as if she's a naughty teen.

Ordinarily I don't intervene in these matters, but I'm frankly not 
sure about what I should do.  Advice?

Losing Sleep in BED


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                   ADVICE FROM "DEAR ANNE"

                             by

                          Goodgulf


Part 3

Dear Losing Sleep:

The rules are there for a reason.  Making an exception in this case 
would send the message that the rules are to be enforced UNLESS 
someone wants to ignore the result of the appeals process, and you 
step in after the fact to save her.  Clearly this isn't the message 
that you want to send to impressionable teens.

Too often teens feel that "if I have a good reason," then it's okay 
-- or that "but this is different, so it doesn't count" means that 
they aren't really breaking the rules.  If one of the teens had 
been the one with the beer, that teen could be facing arrest for 
underage possession of alcohol.  This is a wonderful opportunity 
to show that the rules (as well as the laws) apply to everyone 
equally.  That having a good reason doesn't mean you can skate 
around the consequences.  That "this is different" doesn't stop a 
punishment from happening.  This sort of lesson might save some of 
your counsellors and CITs from getting into real trouble (trouble 
with the courts) later in life, so you shouldn't try to stop it.

Instead you should give a little lecture before the spanking.  Tell 
everyone that you feel that the paddling is unfair, but that since 
the rules call for it then (fair or not) it will happen.  Drive 
home the point that it was only the letter (and not the spirit) of 
the rules that was broken.  Point out that the rule is there to 
discourage people from underage drinking, a crime that this CIT 
cannot possibly commit.  Drive home the unfairness of an adult 
woman being paddled bare merely because of the wording of the rule, 
which is a lesson that you hope all assembled will take with them 
when they leave the camp.  Tell them to focus on the rules, not on 
the CIT's soon-to-be-bared bottom.

If this lecture happens to cause a certain CIT to break down in 
tears then you will have to steel your heart.  Comfort yourself 
with the fact that the tears are just a bit early, and that they 
will enhance the lesson that you're teaching.

Anne

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                    ADVICE FROM "DEAR ANNE"

                              by

                          Imreadonly


Part 4

Dear Anne:

I took your advice and allowed my 21-year-old counsellor to get 
spanked like a naughty teenager, after making the point to 
everyone that she was being punished only for violating the 
letter of the law and not the spirit of the law and that I felt 
the paddling itself was very unfair.

I was rather surprised when several of the teenage counsellors 
spoke up and echoed your points, that they really needed to "see 
her get it hard, and bare" even if she didn't really do anything 
wrong in order to prove the point that the rules apply to everyone.

I guess you were right.

The Head CIT certainly lived up to her part of the bargain, and I 
could tell from the big grin on her face when she did it that she 
was really enjoying putting a 21-year-old college girl through her 
paces.

Needless to say, with "double spanks" our tearful little spankee 
soon started to kick, and the boys quickly adjusted their position 
to make sure they could see what they most wanted to see.  Let me 
tell you, each boy really got an eyeful.

In fact, during her spanking she kicked off her shoes, shorts, and 
even her panties (which I think a few of the boys took back to 
their cabin as a sort of trophy).  Afterwards, the Head CIT made 
her spend the rest of the evening in the corner with her hands on 
her head.  Doing corner time isn't part of our normal procedure, 
but was probably a good idea because it gave our freshly-spanked 
college girl some time to cool down and get her sobbing under 
control (even if she did have to endure quite a bit of teasing 
from some of her fellow CIts regarding the redness of her bottom).

That night she called her mother and asked her to come up to camp 
to pick her up.  The next morning her mother and older brother did 
make the three hour drive, but, much to my surprise, before she met 
with her daughter, she met with me.  She told me that her daughter 
was pretty, popular, and precocious, but also "spoiled and bossy."  
She said that she regretted not spanking her when she was a 
teenager and was glad that she was finally getting "the discipline 
she needed...and deserved."

When her daughter was in the shower, I took the mother to the 
girl's cabin, where the mother opened her daughter's locker and 
took her ATM and credit cards, her mobile phone, her driver's 
license, her cash, and any clothes she had that made her look 
even vaguely adult.  Since her daughter is rather petite, she 
also took all of the girl's underwear, replacing the padded bras 
with button-up vests and the bikini panties with cartoon-print 
underpants that would "help her fit in with the other girls."

She also took her daughter's contacts, replacing them with an 
old pair of glasses with pink "cat's eye" frames.  Then she 
drove home, with her son driving the daughter's car.  She left 
her daughter a note, saying that, "I hope you learn a lesson 
from the loving discipline you shall receive here over the next 
several months."

Meanwhile, the other girls in our big gang shower were teasing our 
college CIT about her tender red fanny and the nickname the boys 
had given her, "honey pot."  She was quite upset by this, and, when 
she had got back to the cabin and discovered her mother and brother 
had come and gone, taking her adulthood with them, (including her 
smart phone) she immediately asked the Head CIT if she could use 
the land line in the Head CIT's office or borrow a mobile to talk 
to her mother.

The Head CIT wrote her up for theft, arguing that, by asking to 
appropriate the camp phone for personal business, she was in fact 
stealing from the other campers.  The girl argued that she would 
gladly pay for the call, as soon as she could get an odd job for 
some cash, since her paychecks were all direct-deposit and her 
mother had taken her ATM and credit cards.  The Head CIT told her 
that, if she couldn't cough up 50 cents NOW, she'd get a spanking.

The last few days have been hard on her, since with the spanking 
and the teasing and the clothes she's wearing, she's really lost 
a lot of her authority and has become quite awkward and diffident.  
Once again, she has been written up for the most technical of 
violations, since, truth be told, her mother left me $100 of her 
daughter's cash that I could use "for emergencies."  By applying 
the 50 cents (which she never actually spent, by the way), I could 
shut down the whole silly argument about her "trying to steal."

Once again, I don't normally get involved in these things, and, 
after her last experience she knows better than to appeal.  What 
should I do?

The Head CIT's punishment form is on my desk.  In addition to 
asking for a spanking in front of everyone, she also suggests 
a mandatory "boy's haircut, that shows her big ears" (since 
she's "flat as a boy anyway and might as well look like one").  
The form also suggests that I demote her from CIT to camper, 
and move her out of the counsellors' cabin.

Anne, I'm not sure what to do.  Several times over the last few 
days she's pointed out that she's 21, an adult, and an excellent 
student.  She begged me to reject the punishment request and tell 
the other counsellors to stop teasing her.

I like her a lot, but even though I was incredibly impressed with 
her when she started out, I wonder now if the tearful girl pleading 
to get out of her next bare-bottom spanking is ever going to have 
the gravitas necessary to be in charge of anything.

Anne, what should I do?


Losing Sleep in BED


PS: I do think she'd look cute-as-a-button with a shorter hair.



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                    ADVICE FROM "DEAR ANNE"

                              by

                           Goodgulf


Part 5

Dear Losing Sleep:

There is an important lesson here for anyone who is thinking of 
entering the teaching profession: the school isn't your own 
personal playground.  If she had been caught "borrowing" an office 
phone, then not only could she have been fired (effectively ruining 
her career), but she might have also faced charges for stealing 
government assets.  If charged for that, she could have gone to 
state prison on that technicality (others have done so in the past).

A sore bottom now is definitely better than a prison record in the 
future.

As for that money, it was left for emergencies.  Her mother made 
her position quite clear, and a phone call isn't going to change 
things, so I can't see you classifying wanting to call home as an 
emergency.  A haircut, one that will help her fit in, is another 
matter; I could easily see the funds going to get her a cute 
pageboy cut.

As for seeing if she should be in charge of others, you may wish 
to have a frank talk with her while her paddling is still pending.  
Remind her that this experience is to test her character to see how 
she could function as a teacher (i.e., as an authority figure) and 
whether she could even act as one.  Remind her that CITs can 
deliver swats on a fully clothed bum and then send her to supervise 
the girls from the most rambunctious cabin you have.  I have no 
doubt that she will find it in herself to deliver those swats; even 
if the swats aren't needed, she will find an excuse.

Once she has endorsed the corporal punishment system by swatting 
the girls, you can tell her (and the other counsellors) that 
logically, since she has accepted the corporal punishment system, 
you don't feel the need to give her punishment form any more 
thought.  What's good for the goose (camper) and is good for the 
gander (CIT). Then point out the "stealing state assets" aspect 
as to why paddling is a good idea any way.

Should she experience life as a camper?  I don't see any reason why 
not, and I can think of at least one great reason why she should 
become a camper.  Someday she will be a teacher, perhaps one who 
can either paddle or send students to the office for a paddling, so 
she should have experience being in the position of those students. 
From what her mother says, she was never spanked or paddled as a 
teenager, so she doesn't know the dread of a student whose teacher 
can paddle her, and she should have some idea, so she can empathise 
with her future students.

It's up to you, but I would accept the Head CIT's suggestion -- and 
do so in a way that serves more than one purpose.  Go to the camp's 
most rambunctious cabin and transfer the most popular girl out of 
it to make room for the new camper.  Be sure to transfer her in 
while her bum is still showing the marks from her second paddling 
(so when she changes the other girls can see that she's one of 
them) and remind the other campers that it is everyone's duty to 
point out lapses of discipline to the CITs and counsellors.  The 
other campers, mourning the loss of their friend and remembering 
how the former CIT gave them swats, will be sure to keep her on 
the straight and narrow.  Better yet, with her being a camper, she 
will collect swats as needed -- which will mean less paperwork for 
you to deal with.

In any event, I'm sure this will be an educational summer for her.

Anne